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Podcast 117: PEDOGATE: What We Know, What We Don’t, & the Danger of Witch Hunts

There’s been a lot of chatter on social media lately about alleged high-level pedophiles, and the supposed elite networks under which they operate. Much of this is due to a few professed victims posting on Twitter and elsewhere, claiming that they were abused by these individuals and/or groups, some of whom are quite famous.

But are they true?

We’re going to take a deep dive into these claims, as well as look at several documented cases from the recent past, that may help shed some light on what might be going on. This is a very difficult topic to research and discuss, and we don’t take this endeavor lightly. That said, we feel it’s important to present some of the facts and evidence as we know them, so that listeners can make up their own mind as to the truth of these claims. Separating fact from fiction is always important in conspiracy research, and even more so when dealing with the abuse and trafficking of children.

So, with that said, the following is an edited transcript of the podcast, with links and videos for you to read, watch, and discover for yourself. Again, this stuff is disturbing, but please NOTE: None of the direct links, pictures, or videos provided display or point to illegal content. All of it is from well-documented sources, and readily available in the public domain. That said, as you dig deeper, we advise that you research at your own risk.

If you, or someone you know, is a victim of child abuse or sex trafficking, please call your local law enforcement or FBI field office to report it. You can also contact these organizations:

National Human Trafficking Hotline:

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC):

”Never, Never be afraid to do what’s right, especially when the well-being of a person is at stake. Society’s punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.“ — MLK

John & Adam

We’ve visited this topic in the past with our Franklin Cover-Up Conspiracy of Silence Podcast, and we’re going to get into a bit of that again tonight, but this time we’re going to go a little deeper. That said, we’re going to cover several stories to give you a broad overview, each of these stories requiring a full podcast in themselves, which we may do at some point. However, the purpose of this podcast is to give you a mile-high view of, THE SITUATION. And what is that situation?

PedoGate, the belly of the beast of conspiracy theories.

This is the hub, I believe, from which most, not all, but most conspiracies revolve. And what I mean by that, is that not only are these crimes central to how power works in this world, but also how the powerful are blackmailed into towing the party line, whichever and whatever that happens to be at the time. In other words, the very powerful have an agenda, and if you want to play the game at that level, you’re going to follow that agenda, and if you waver from it or undermine it in any significant way, the powerful are going to destroy you with the dirt they have on you. At the same time, they can protect you from these revelations with all the money, power, and force at their disposal. In short, it’s a deal with the devil in exchange for fortune and fame.

This does NOT mean that everyone at the top is compromised or a player in this game. But far too many are and, now with the advent of the Internet and the sharing of information, will inevitably be exposed and, if not ended entirely, severely diminished. That’s the optimistic view. The pessimistic view, is that it continues to stay undercover… or it gets exposed and triggers a complete collapse of our current civilization.

That’s not hyperbole. That’s how big this is, and if the public revelations of the Catholic Church scandals are any indication, the affect will not be trivial if this becomes common knowledge. How this will affect our government, financial, political, and entertainment institutions remains to be seen. It’ll certainly require some kind of reset, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

Now, before we begin, I’d just like to say to our listeners that Magical Mystery Radio does not, and will not, engage in directly calling someone a pedophile, or accuse someone of being involved with child abuse or child trafficking as proven beyond a reasonable doubt without some tangible documented evidence. Allegations, innuendo, rumors, gossip, inappropriate tweets, etc. don’t count. There’s a dangerous trend developing in the alternative media, where direct accusations are being made about some very public personalities based on speculation, hearsay and, admittedly, some disgusting and bizarre social media posts. There are many damning revelations and/or personal stories being told by people who claim to have experienced them. We are not dismissing these claims, nor are we endorsing them.

That said, one claim should not constitute proof, hell even multiple claims should not constitute absolute proof until proven either through irrefutable documentation or in a court of law which, unfortunately and admittedly, doesn’t often happen in high-profile cases. We still believe in innocence until proven guilty, which seems to be getting lost in all of this dialogue, and this witch-hunt mentality (though understandable in many ways) is becoming very worrisome. And those alternative media outlets and personalities who engage in this type of behavior are not only acting unprofessionally, they’re flirting with defamation and libel and, in all probability, making it more difficult for legitimate investigators and prosecutors to bring these cases to trial (if there is one), as they can be argued by a good defense attorney to be already tainted and prejudicial. In other words, wild accusations and speculation, actually harms the cause for which they claim to be helping: bringing the real criminals to justice.

Make sense?

So, we have to be very careful about how we present this stuff to the public. I want to play a brief clip of Nick Bryant, who spent many years investigating the Franklin Scandal, talk about some of the misinformation spreading on the Internet regarding this stuff. This clip is from an interview in 2017, and begins with him discussing the Johnny Gosch/Jeff Gannon conspiracy and then gets into Pizzagate. For those who aren’t familiar, Johnny Gosch was a boy who was abducted off the street in his Iowa neighborhood in 1982 while on his paper route. He was one of the first of those missing milk carton kids, and his story directly factors into the Franklin Scandal. Jeff Gannon (whose real name is Jeff Guckert) was a gay male escort in Washington DC, who was given press credentials even though he wasn’t even a real reporter, and was documented to have visited the White House over 200 times.

Anyway, here’s the clip. And btw, we’ll be playing various clips from this interview throughout the podcast, so let’s go ahead and listen to this first excerpt:

(Go to 9:44, but we recommend watching the whole thing, Parts 1 & 2)

He goes on to explain how the Jeff Gannon story is very strange… here’s a gay male prostitute that was visiting the White House as far back as 1990 during the first Bush administration, then again from 2003 – 2005 during the second, hundreds of times, given press credentials he didn’t earn (which is a story in itself), and all of it may have National Security implications. But conflating him with the Johnny Gosch story just serves to muddy the already unclean waters even further and steer people in the wrong direction.

Most importantly, he talks about how his investigation started with talking to VICTIMS, which was no easy task, btw. This is KEY. And with Pizzagate, so far we don’t have any documented victims for that particular conspiracy. That said, we do have a number of victims coming forward now, not necessarily tied to Pizzagate (except maybe indirectly), and they’re coming out much more so than in the past, so hopefully we’re experiencing a sea change in the zeitgeist regarding this whole sordid affair, as victims become more empowered to #SayBraveThings, as they say.

But are they true? Again, therein lies the rub.

Now, he also mentioned Ted Gunderson, and we’ll get into him a little later, as I actually met him twice in the early 90’s, but suffice it to say, there’s something not quite right about him. And I agree with Bryant, that he may have been a disinfo agent to throw people off the right track.

So, with all that said, what do we know. What has been documented as true and beyond a reasonable doubt. Well, the Franklin Scandal for one, as there were multiple victims who testified on record (and many who didn’t or wouldn’t due to fear), and we’ll revisit that in a bit. But, let’s discuss a few other cases that people may not be familiar with…

In the second half, we’ll get into the more contemporaneous stuff like Pizzagate, NXIVM Cult, and the recent so-called bombshells from alleged victims of elite pedophile networks.

The Dutroux Affair and the Belgium Scandal

I first heard about this 20 years ago when I was reading the books published by Disinfo when it was under Richard Metzger’s tutelage. Specifically, I think it was Abuse Your Illusions, Everything You Know is Wrong, and You’ve Been Lied To, all edited by Russ Kick. They always had great titles.

I’m gonna quote from this article at The Last American Vagabond, as it synopsizes this case, as well as a few others , fairly well. The title of the whole piece is: Six Case Studies That Point To Massive Pedophilia Rings At The Highest Levels Of Power. (Note: the following excerpt was edited by me for grammar, brevity and, in some instances, re-worded for the listener for better clarity. The context or meaning has not been changed. See original.)

I will begin in Belgium, with a case known as the Dutroux affair. This case is important because it illustrates how investigations can be undermined by a cabal able to place its members in crucial positions of power, and how powerful people can be implicated in abusing children. The Dutroux affair was covered extensively by the mainstream media, and was huge news in Belgium, where 350,000 people took to the streets to protest the handling of the case, known as the famous White March.

The case begins in 1995, when multiple young girls began disappearing around the area of Bertrix. Young girls had been disappearing in this area for a couple of years, but the BOB (equivalent of the FBI) was unable to develop any solid leads. A breakthrough was made when a suspicious white van was reported, and the police were able to trace it to Marc Dutroux, a known pedophile. Dutroux had been released from prison just a few years earlier, after serving a third of his sentence, despite reservations among those involved in the hearing and his own mother, who had warned the parole board that he would certainly cause harm again.

It was also revealed that Dutroux, though unemployed and receiving welfare from the state, owned seven homes and lived quite lavishly.

Was this from his involvement in selling children and child porn? Umm… what do you think.

It turns out that his mother was right, and Dutroux was responsible for the recent abductions. Girls as young as 8 reportedly starved to death in a makeshift dungeon in his basement, after months of sexual abuse. The knowledge of these horrible transgressions committed by Dutroux are widely available and thoroughly documented, and though disturbing, not nearly as disturbing as the apparent cover-up of the high-level players involved.

As always, I’ll provide all the links for this podcast in the show notes. And there are a lot of them believe me. In fact one of the links, the X-Dossiers, Beyond the Dutroux Affair: The Reality of Child Abuse and Snuff Networks goes so deep into the rabbit hole, and is so well documented, that you could spend months studying it and only scratch the surface.

Now, I will attempt to highlight the incompetence of the investigating police, and the subsequent cover-up of evidence by the state. Police had investigated Dutroux multiple times without any arrests. Once, they entered his home and witnessed the outside of a makeshift dungeon in his basement, while two girls were being held and starved inside. They even reported hearing voices, though they said they believed Dutroux’s story that the voices were coming from the street outside.

Police ignored a tip from an informant, who said that Dutroux offered him between 3,000 and 5,000 dollars to kidnap young girls. Again and again, police failed to act on information, or acted with complete incompetence. Incredibly, Police had in their possession a video tape of Dutroux constructing the makeshift dungeon in one of his basements, and would have saved the lives of two girls who were being tortured while the police held on to the evidence, had they viewed the video tape and acted on it.

By September 1996, the official body count had reached 8, and public outrage over police incompetence mounted. Why had a known pedophile been released so early from his original prison term, and allowed to terrify a country while the police stumbled about, seemingly complicit in the carnage?

When the case transferred from the police to the courts, the coverup became much more egregious. The lead prosecutor, Jean-Marc Conorrette, was dismissed from the case, which drew huge criticism from across the nation. Conorette became a hero because it was his initiative that led to the police actually finding two girls in Dutroux’s captivity. He also was instrumental in finding the bodies of four more girls. Conorette would later break down in tears in court while describing the death threats he received when he was still involved with the investigation.

Fuel to the fire would be added when a highly regarded children’s activist, Marie France Botte, claimed that prosecutors were sitting on a politically sensitive list of high-profile customers of Dutroux’s thousands of video tapes.

Marc Verwilghen, the Flemish parliamentarian who became the most popular politician in the country after leading the inquiry into Dutroux, claimed that many in the Belgian establishment, including heads of government, refused to cooperate, and sought to stifle and ridicule his report. He claimed that magistrates and police were officially told to not answer certain questions, in what he described as a ‘characteristic smothering operation.’ He was further quoted as saying ‘For me, the Dutroux affair is a question of organized crime.’ A parliamentary panel revealed the names of 30 government officials it said were complicit in the hiding of Dutroux’s misdeeds, none have been punished.

The most important information on the case comes from a victim of Dutroux. Regina Louf was the first to come forward, and was candid about the abuse she received at the hands of Belgium’s child abuse networks. In 1996, she named and described in great detail, to a specially assembled police team, the people and places involved in the paedophile ring. Senior judges, one of the country’s most powerful politicians – now dead – and a very influential banker were included.

The BBC article says, “The sessions not only involved sex, they included sadism, torture and murder; and again, she described in detail, the place, the victims and how they were killed.”

She corroborated that one of Dutroux’s associates, Jean-Michel Nihoul, was instrumental in the abuse parties. “At these parties Nihoul was a sort of party beast while Dutroux was more on the side.”

Nihoul had significant connections among Belgian political and financial elite. He confessed to organizing an orgy at a Belgian chateau attended by government officials. It emerged that Dutroux and Nihoul were part of a long distance child trafficking ring that imported children from Slovakia.

Let’s get back to the questioning of the witnesses. The primary witnesses to step forward all suffered from Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID). In 98% of DID cases, the person suffered extreme sexual abuse as a child. The abuse that the Dutroux witnesses attested to is beyond comprehension. Louf, and other witnesses, recounted being raped by dogs and snakes, and being forced to witness the murders of other children which were captured on video tape. That Louf spoke the truth about witnessing these murders is laid out here in an excellent manner.

She gave a tremendous amount of detail to her prosecutors that she simply could not have known without being there herself, and there is simply way too much evidence to lay it out here. I recommend reading the whole page, which is as long as a short book, as the research is simply phenomenal. She also reported being involved with Satanic rituals, which I will address in greater detail later in the post.

Despite evidence that linked Dutroux and Nihoul to abuse parties and snuff films, the prosecutor that replaced Conorette, Jacques Langlois, completely dismantled the investigation. He sent police out on false tips and helped spread disinformation in the media. Although nearly 100 high-profile people in government, religion, entertainment and finance being accused of involvement in child abuse, no one of significance other than Dutroux was ever jailed. Nine police officers would eventually be arrested in connection with the murders which also contained dozens of suspicious deaths among those who were helping the case. I have only presented a small picture of what amounts to a mountain of documentation on Dutroux.

Again, I’ll provide copious links on this case, but I warn listeners again that the information is very, very disturbing. This is one of the many reasons, in my opnion, these cases stay on the fringe. Most people can’t handle it.


In Latvia, three top officials, including the Prime Minister, were named in connection with a pedophile ring in which 2000 children in the country were abused. An online ring known as Wonderland was busted and yielded 750,000 images of children. From the article:

“Wonderland originated in the United States but also operated in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Sweden and Britain.” None of the men charged in relation to the ring served more than 30 months in jail, and only two were put on the sex offenders registry (in the year 2000!!!).

A child porn ring in Mexico was busted and said to have thousands of clients in the United States. Child porn videos reportedly made a Russian ring 410 million dollars being sold in Germany, Italy, and the United States. A Dutch ring was discovered in which images and videos of abuse of infants were circulated. A magistrate leading an investigation into an Italian pedophile ring denounced what he called a “paedophile lobby” of powerful politicians which he said openly obstructed his investigation. French police arrested 250 people associated with child pornography within a year of the Dutroux affair.

I’ll finish with a few paragraphs from another article, this one even more substantive, from Disobedient Media, titled: Special Report: The Truth Dies In Darkness; Dutroux:

The Dutroux case is significant not only because of the deep depravity of the crimes committed and witnessed, but because the evidence that emerges from the case is validated twice over; First by legal proceedings, secondly by the publication of many of the prosecution’s records by Wikileaks in 2009.

The Dutroux Affair was further validated by the extreme suppression of evidence in what many have called a coverup perpetrated by the Belgian establishment. The episode is a definitive example of the exposure of deep judicial and political corruption leading to widespread public distrust in the legitimacy of their institutions of government.This sentiment has been echoed most recently in the U.S., where many feel that the rule of law has come to mean little in the face of an utterly corrupt establishment that has become unaccountable to the public.

Dutroux claimed that Belgian businessman Michel Nihoul had been his accomplice and was his link with a larger criminal enterprise. Nihoul was charged in relation to the case with “kidnapping, rape, conspiracy, and drug offenses,” among a total of thirteen people who were charged in connection with the Dutroux case. Nihoul was acquitted of charges connected to kidnappping, but was convicted of being part of a ring that trafficked drugs and people into Belgium.

Nihoul had expressed confidence to The Guardian after charges were initially brought against him, saying that the case would never come to court because he had “information about important people in Belgium that could bring the government down.” During the interview Nihoul boasted, calling himself the monster of Belgium. His allusion to sexual blackmail material paralleled Marc Dutroux’s allegations during court proceedings that Nihoul was connected to a network of powerful child abusers.

Nihoul’s conviction for trafficking drugs and people begs the question as to who else may have been involved in the network. Nihoul’s statement that he could “bring the government down” implied his criminal activities included ties with influential individuals, which echoed statements made by Marc Dutroux.

Witnesses in the case identified Nihoul as a violent figure that attended orgies where children were sexually abused, tortured and sometimes killed with members of the establishment present. The first Judge in the case, Connerotte, believed “Nihoul was the brains behind the operation,” as reported by The Guardian. The Telegraph reported that Dutroux’s lawyers had alluded to horrific claims of “satanic cult” involvement which included child sacrifice.

There were over eight hundred mentions of Nihoul in the Wikileaks dossier, published in 2009. The notes record the presence of a photo of Nihoul with “various political figures,” as well as a statement by Dutroux that: “Nihoul proposed to reduce [traffick] girls from Eastern countries.”

Wikileaks’ Dutroux dossier also shows large financial transactions, maps of numerous European countries, and the presence of international currencies including Morrocan and Saudi Arabian money. The dossier shows payments of hundreds of thousands of francs to Michelle Martin, Dutroux’s then-wife, and to Dutroux’s personal bank account. It appears to be a reasonable inference from these documents that Marc Dutroux and Michel Nihoul were not acting alone in their criminal enterprises. Much as in the lack of analysis of DNA material recovered from Dutroux’s basement, the lack of investigation into Marc Dutroux’s financial connections increased frustration towards an appallingly inefficient legal procedure.

This was especially glaring oversight in light of the fact that Marc Dutroux was as an electrician living on social security benefits during the time of the crimes, but nonetheless owned ten houses. The New York Times wrote on this point: “…After several of the disappearances, Mr. Dutroux paid large sums of money into several bank accounts…Within four years of being released early from jail, where he had served time for rape and kidnapping, Mr. Dutroux — whose only official income was a welfare check — was worth an estimated 6 million francs, suggesting to investigators that he was acting for others higher up in a pedophile and prostitution ring.”

More Research Links:

Marc Dutroux: The Child Killer Who Slipped Through the System

Belgium Pedophilia Scandal

275,000 in Belgium Protest Handling of Child Sex Scandal

Suspicions of a Wider Network Linger as Date Arrives for Trial of Belgian Child Killer

Belgian Establishment Accused of Closing Ranks to Block Investigation

Judge Tells of Murder Plots to Block Dutroux Investigation

Kidnap Deaths Plunge Belgium into Guilt

Regina Louf’s Testimony

Belgian’s Shocked by Tales of Secret Policemen’s Orgy

Dutroux and the Network

Dutroux Said He Procured Girls for Belgian Network

Belgium’s Silent Heart of Darkness

Marc Dutroux is Convicted of Raping and Killing Girls

Marc Dutroux (Multiple links provided)

Jean-Michel Nihoul

Sordid Times in Dear Belgium

Belgium Police Target Possible Pedophile Network

Wikileaks Dutroux Dossier

Wikileaks Summary (Archive link)

Wikileaks Slammed Over Publishing Dutroux Dossier

X-Dossier Victim-Witnesses

3 Top Latvians Are Named in Investigation of Pedophilia

International Wonderland Child Abuse Ring

Jimmy Savile and the British Pedophile Networks

Now, many of you have probably heard of the Jimmy Savile case. If you haven’t, I’ll synopsize for you.

From Wikipedia, the sanitized version:

Jimmy Savile was an English media personality who was well known in the United Kingdom for his eccentricities and, at the time of his death, was generally respected for his charitable work. He was knighted in 1990. In late 2012, almost a year after his death, reports surfaced indicating that Savile had committed sexual abuse throughout his 50-year career, his alleged victims ranging from prepubescent girls and boys to adults.

Folks, this individual was one of the most vile and disgusting creatures to ever walk the earth, he abused hundreds of victims during his decades-long career, which was (as we now know), covered up by the media and establishment until after his death. BTW, there were lots of reports before his death, but they never gained any traction because he had protection at the highest levels.

How venal and sick was he? Well, take a gander at this article from The Guardian which, remember, keeps things tame for their general audience.

We’ll quote the findings from investigators as part of Operation Yewtree:

The results of the investigations were made public by Hunt on 26 June 2014. The report concluded that Savile sexually assaulted victims in NHS hospitals over several decades. At Leeds General Infirmary, 60 people, including both staff and patients, stated that they had been abused by Savile, with their ages ranging from 5 to 75. It reported a number of organisational failures which had allowed him to continue unchallenged. Hunt apologised to the victims of the assaults, and said that the findings “will shake our country to the core”. It was reported that Savile had boasted to nurses and other staff that he performed sex acts on the bodies of recently deceased persons in the mortuary of Leeds General Hospital and claimed to have removed glass eyes from corpses and made them into rings. The report says “We have no way of proving Savile’s claims that he interfered with the bodies of the deceased patients in the mortuary in this way” but that Savile did have unsupervised access to the mortuary. A separate report on Savile’s activities at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, prepared by independent investigator Dr Androulla Johnstone and published on 26 February 2015, found that he had sexually abused more than 50 people there, including staff, patients and visitors. One was an 8-year-old child. Savile had full access to all parts of the hospital. The report stated that it was widely known at the hospital that Savile was a “sex pest”, and that 10 complaints had been made at the time, but no action was taken. Also published on 26 February 2015 was Kate Lampard’s report into lessons to be learned from the health service’s handling of the Savile scandal. She concluded that: “Savile was a highly unusual personality whose lifestyle, behaviour and offending patterns were equally unusual. As a result of his celebrity, his volunteering, and his fundraising he had exceptional access to a number of NHS hospitals and took the opportunities that that access gave him to abuse patients, staff and others on a remarkable scale. Savile’s celebrity and his roles as a volunteer and fundraiser also gave him power and influence within NHS hospitals which meant that his behaviour, which was often evidently inappropriate, was not challenged as it should have been. Savile’s ability to continue to pursue his activities without effective challenge was aided by fragmented hospital management arrangements; social attitudes of the times, including reticence in reporting and accepting reports of sexual harassment and abuse, and greater deference than today towards those in positions of influence and power; and less bold and intrusive media reporting. While it might be tempting to dismiss the Savile case as wholly exceptional, a unique result of a perfect storm of circumstances, the evidence we have gathered indicates that there are many elements of the Savile story that could be repeated in the future. There is always a risk of the abuse, including sexual abuse, of people in hospitals. There will always be people who seek to gain undue influence and power within public institutions including in hospitals. And society and individuals continue to have a weakness for celebrities. Hospital organisations need to be aware of the risks posed by these matters and manage them appropriately.”
The joint report prepared by the Metropolitan Police Service and the NSPCC (National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children), “Giving Victims a Voice”, was published in January 2013, and marked the end of investigations under Operation Yewtree into Savile alone. It reported that sex offences were committed by Savile on 450 people (328 being children at the time), across England and Scotland, with allegations also made in Jersey. The vast majority of offences occurred in his home town of Leeds and in London, his main place of work.

Jimmy Savile Scandal Exposes Pedophile Network at Heart of British Establishment

BBC Shelved Jimmy Savile Sex Abuse Investigation ‘to protect its own reputation’

Giving Victims a Voice

There were other high-profile arrests during this investigation, most of whom were media personalities.

Now, shall we get into the scumbag British politicians caught up in child abuse and trafficking as part of VIP Pedophile Rings? Let’s not, because there are TOO MANY TO COUNT, and we’ll be here all fucking night.

Suffice it to say, much of the stuff so far revealed happened under the Thatcher government and, now that most of the VIP abusers are dead, it’s all coming out. So, it makes one wonder, what’s been happening in the interim. Shits coming out, folks, and there’s no stopping it now. BTW, one of the first to expose pedophilia, child abuse, sex trafficking, and murder at the elite level was David Icke. He named names as well, which have subsequently turned out to be true. He was laughed at once. People aren’t laughing so much now, are they?

Research Links on British VIP Scumbags:

How Thatcher’s Government Covered Up a VIP Pedophile Ring

A Big Political Cover-Up of 1980s Pedophile Ring in UK Parliament

Reddit Thread on UK VIP Pedophile Scandal (Lots of links to mainstream sources)

Westminster Child Abuse Scandal

Failed Westminster VIP Pedophile Ring Investigation Has ‘Disastrous Effect’

Westminster Paedophile Dossier

Britain Investigates Alleged VIP Pedophile Ring from ’70s and ’80s

Britain Arrests Hundreds of Suspected Pedophiles

Britain’s VIP Pedophile Ring Exposed

There’s lots more, but that should get you started.

The Finders Cult

Now, this case was discussed in relation to the Franklin Scandal. Here’s a quote from the 1987 New York Times article discussing the Finders Cult:

Police officials here said today that six disheveled children found in Tallahassee, Fla., might be the offspring of members of a little-known cult, but the officials said they had not ruled out the possibility of kidnapping.”

What happened was, on February 4, 1987, a concerned citizen witnessed a group of children they described as, “poorly dressed, bruised, dirty, and behaving like wild animals” in a Tallahasee, FL. park., who were being supervised by to two well-dressed men driving a white 1979 Dodge van with Virginia plates. They contacted the Tallahasee police who took the children and adults into custody. The two men refused to cooperate. The police officers noted that the children, whose ages ranged from three years old to six, could not identify themselves and were, “unaware of the function and purpose of televisions, telephones, and toilets.” The children also said they were not allowed to live indoors and were given food only as a reward.

Here are a few quotes from US News and World Report at the time:

The more the police learned about the Finders, the more bizarre they seemed: There were suggestions of child abuse, Satanism, dealing in pornography and ritualistic animal slaughter. None of the allegations was ever proved, however. The child abuse charges against the two men in Tallahassee were dropped.

Customs Service documents reveal that in 1987, when Customs agents sought to examine the evidence gathered by Washington, D.C., police, they were told that the Finders investigation ‘had become a CIA internal matter.’ The police report on the case had been classified secret.

Could our own government have something to do with this Finders organization and turned their backs on these children? That’s what all the evidence points to,” says (Florida Congressman) Tom Lewis. “And there’s a lot of evidence. I can tell you this: We’ve got a lot of people scrambling, and that wouldn’t be happening if there was nothing here.

For more information, read the prologue to The Franklin Scandal. Also, check out this six-part investigation into the Finders Cult and it’s possible connections to the recent Pizzagate revelations here:

The Finders Cult: The Missing Pizzagate Links?

The Presidio Military Base Child Abuse Scandal and Cover-up

The main character in this infernal play is a one Col. Michael Aquino, founder of The Temple of Set, a breakaway group from Anton LaVey’s Church of Satan*. You know it’s bad when even LaVey is too tame for you.

*All kidding aside, it should be noted that LaVey was an Ayn Randian style libertarian with a very “live and let live” attitude, albeit a bit elitist, he abhorred anyone who harmed animals or children. There’s no evidence he was ever involved in child abuse or sex trafficking.

Although he was never formally charged, the same cannot be said for this individual. Aquino was a psychological warfare officer in the U.S. Army, and this gets into the MK-Ultra stuff we’ll talk about in the second half. I’m not going to get into this one, but I’ll provide plenty of links for people to research themselves and make up their own mind. Two things are notable, however… one is that Aquino was involved with the infamous Phoenix Program in Vietnam to destroy Viet-cong infrastructure. It was an assassination/torture/terror operation run by the CIA, and specifically… run by William Colby, who later was the Director of the CIA from 1973 – 1976. What makes this so interesting is Colby was asked to help with the Franklin Investigation by John DeCamp, the Nebraska Senator who intially investigated the case, and was friends with Colby during Vietnam due to his participation in… you guessed it… the Phoenix Program. Six degrees of separation and synchronicity in Dante’s nine circles of conspiracy hell… no numerology pun intended.

Research Links:

The Presidio Scandal

Presidio Day Care Scandal

The Case Against Michael Aquino

Michael Aquino, Child Molester?

Child Abuse at The Presidio

US Army Will Close Child-Care Center

Preschool Child Sex Abuse: The Aftermath of the Presidio Case

FBI Investigates Presidio Child Molestation Report

Max Spiers Investigated US Military Pedophile Ring Before Suspicious Death

Now, Colby is an interesting character. Let’s let Nick Bryant describe Colby’s relation to the Franklin Scandal:

Now here’s a clip where John DeCamp talks about William Colby, the Franklin Cover-Up, and Colby’s suspicious death.

All of this leads us to…

The Franklin Scandal

Now, as stated we already did a podcast on this one and, although it was one of our first and the audio isn’t the best, I recommend people go back and listen to it. In a coconut shell, The Franklin Scandal is all about a high-level pedophile ring and nationwide child trafficking network, being run out of Nebraska which reached the highest levels of government, and was subsequently covered-up by elements within the CIA, the FBI, Secret Service, and a corrupt judicial process.

It’s a minefield of corruption and conspiracy that, if it doesn’t wake you up to what’s really going on and red-pill the shit out of you, nothing will.

Here’s another clip from that same interview with Nick Bryant, where he gives an overview of the case and how he got involved. The audio isn’t the best during this part of the interview, but the info is what’s important:

Here’s another interview Nick Bryant did with Sean Stone (Oliver’s son) on RT:

More links for The Franklin Scandal:

Still Evil After All These Years

A Lurid and Mysterious Scandal Begins Taking Shape in Omaha

Omaha’s Hurricane of Scandal

The Franklin Scandal Research Wiki

The Franklin Cover-Up by John DeCamp

Confessions of a D.C. Madam: The Politics of Sex, Lies, and Blackmail

Watch Who Took Johnny? on Netflix

Boys For Sale

There’s a very powerful 1979 news documentary called, Boys for Sale, produced for Channel 11 in Houston and Channel 13 in Atlanta, which documents an interstate child trafficking ring (operated out of New York, Houston, and elsewhere) that involved many elite businessmen, judges, clergy, and politicians at the time. The doc has been mostly forgotten (by design obviously), but it did air on Austin Public Access Television in 1981 along with an interview with investigative journalist Mark McKinnon of the Daily Texan, and Dr. Tom Philpott, a history professor at the University of Texas and civil rights activist who investigated and researched this issue extensively. And, thanks to the Internet, we can now see it. It provides a mountain of evidence and testimony corroborating everything we’ve been talking about, and it predates public knowledge of the Franklin Scandal by nearly a decade. It needs to be seen by everyone, and you can watch parts 1 & 2 here:

A quick sad footnote, Professor Philpott died mysteriously in 1991. He allegedly committed suicide, but no one beleives that, as he had been shot at several times and received multiple death threats after exposing this stuff, which was also documented in a Texas Monthly article from the time period, so take that for what you will. He was an unsung hero in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Philpott, a Courageous Man Ahead of His Time

Jeffrey Epstein

This guy.

The billionaire financier and registered sex offender who seems to be connected to a Who’s Who of society: politicians, businessmen, celebrities, and royalty. I’m sure people have heard of the “Lolita Express”, a private Boeing 727, which Bill Clinton flew on 26 times by the way and, of course, the island Epstein owns in the Virgin Islands of all places called, “Orgy Island”. Well, Epstein is also connected with Donald Trump, and his TV arch-nemesis and alter-ego, Alec Baldwin. My what a tangled web we weave. Well, let me quote from an article in the NY Post just to give you an overview:

In 2005, the world was introduced to reclusive billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, friend to princes and an American president, a power broker with the darkest of secrets: He was also a pedophile, accused of recruiting dozens of underage girls into a sex-slave network, buying their silence and moving along, although he has been convicted of only one count of soliciting prostitution from a minor. Visitors to his private Caribbean island, known as “Orgy Island,” have included Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Stephen Hawking.

According to a 2011 court filing by alleged Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre, she saw Clinton and Prince Andrew on the island but never saw the former president do anything improper. Giuffre has accused Prince Andrew of having sex with her when she was a minor, a charge Buckingham Palace denies.

Well, of course, Epstein also had a little black book of contacts. You can read about Epstein’s little black book in an article by none other than Nick Bryant. 

Now let’s play a clip from that same interview with Bryant, where he answers a question regarding Epstein’s relationship with Trump:

(Go to about 40:50)

Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit(s)

BTW, there’s a purported video of this woman (who’s name is Katie Johnson – she’s the Jane Doe ) relaying her story, which has her identity camouflaged.  She’s wearing a wig, her face is pixelated, and her voice distorted, but even then you can tell she’s…

Well, we’ll let you be the judge:

Kinda’ reminds me of those Time Travel LARPing vids.

Here are a few more links on this case:

When Has Trump Been Accused of Rape or Attempted Rape?

Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Now, if any of this were true, I think we’d have found out about it now, given that they’re throwing everything and the kitchen sink at him to remove him from office. There’s no doubt Trump has had sex with a number of women, some of them probably as young as 18, and some of it may have been taped illegally, but statutory rape – there’s no evidence, and certainly there’s no evidence of pedophilia.

As a side note, the rape lawsuits against Trump were apparently coordinated by Norm Lubow, a former producer of the Jerry Springer show, and known for fake allegations and sensationalism. So, consider the source.

But back to Epstein. It is my contention that Epstein was running a honeypot blackmail operation very similar to the one Craig Spence (of Franklin Scandal fame) was running out of DC back in the 80’s. In fact, I’ll quote from Wikipedia of all places:

The International Business Times reported that papers filed in a 2006 lawsuit alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls by prominent people for criminal purposes, such as blackmail. Epstein allegedly “loaned” girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to gain possible blackmail information. In 2015, evidence came to light that one of the powerful men at Epstein’s mansion may have been Prince Andrew, Duke of York.

So, who was he running the blackmail operation for? My guess is our old friends at the CIA, as well as very probably the Mossad, Israeli intelligence. How many prominent people have allowed themselves to be compromised by these operations: a lot! Can you say Hugh Hefner and Playboy? I knew you could.

Blackmail. It’s the name of the game.

More Jeffrey Epstein Links:

Jeffrey Epstein, a Brief History of Slime

FBI Records: Jeffrey Epstein

Now, we’re going to go a little deeper (is that even possible?), and discuss some of the stranger stories that don’t have nearly as much documented evidence, in fact, there’s almost no evidence beyond what the victims claim, but we’re going to talk about them as they do fit into the larger picture.

Some of this is disturbing, and for most people, will not be believed, as they float on the outer fringes of conspiracy, dealing with mind control and secret govt. ops., etc. However, in light of what we have discussed as being documented and true, it’s important to present these cases so people can research themselves and come to their own conclusions.

But beware of disinformation. There’s a lot of nonsense surrounding this topic and, it must be said, may be being perpetrated by some of the victims/claimants themselves, either wittingly or unwittingly.

That said, there’s something about these stories that warrant further investigation. The fact that they all share a familiar pattern is telling as well. And I bring them up, as they will lead us directly to the present day stuff we talked about in our preamble.

The truth just might really be stranger than fiction.

Candy Jones

From Wikipedia:

Candy Jones, originally known as Jessica Arline Wilcox (December 31, 1925 – January 18, 1990), was an American fashion model, writer and radio talk show hostess.

Born in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, she was raised and educated in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

In the 1940s and 1950s, she was a leading model and pin-up girl, and afterward, established a modeling school and wrote several books on modeling and fashion. In 1972, Jones married the popular radio show host Long John Nebel (he was her second husband), and became the co-host of his all-night talk-show on WMCA in New York City. The show dealt with paranormal, UFO, and conspiracy theory claims.

Jones controversially claimed to be a victim of Project MKULTRA, the CIA mind-control program, in the 1960s.

It’s a fascinating case and sets the stage for the stories below.

Research Links:

Fortean Times Profile of Candy Jones

The Control of Candy Jones

Cathy O’Brien – TRANCE-Formation of America

Cathy O’Brien also claims to be a victim of sex abuse, trafficking, and MK-Ultra, the governments mind control program from the 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s… and yes, she names names. Again, I want to warn listeners that some of this is graphic. I know it’s hard to believe, as it veers into batshit crazy territory, but even if only a small portion of this stuff is true, we’re in trouble and it needs to be exposed.

Again, from Wikipedia:

Cathy O’Brien or Cathleen Ann O’Brien (born December 4, 1957, Muskegon, Michigan) is an American author and speaker who claims to be a victim of a government mind control program called Project Monarch which she alleges was part of the CIA’s Project MKULTRA. O’Brien made these assertions in Trance Formation of America (1995) and Access Denied: For Reasons of National Security (2004) which she co-authored with her husband Mark Phillips. According to scholars, there is no credible evidence for O’Brien’s claims and there are numerous inconsistencies with her story.


Btw, there’s a short GNN (Guerilla News Network) documentary where Cathy O’Brien visits a gyneacologist, who confirms that she was a victim of genital mutilation. It’s graphic and they show it. Her vagina was carved by a scalpel with a sinister-looking face.

Alright, so let’s play a clip of Cathy telling a part of her story:

Rite to Remain Silent Ritual, according to Cathy.

I recommend people see the entire video, which starts off with Mark Phillips her “rescuer” giving some history, background, and how he came to rescue Cathy from the mind control program. It’s all very detailed, disturbing, and raises a lot of questions. I don’t believe she’s lying. Something happened to her, and I don’t think she’s just making shit up.

That said, people don’t entirely trust Mark Phillips in this play. Btw, he died in September of last year. Now his background is very interesting. He was purportedly a CIA operative or (“Intelligence insider” according to the bio on their website) and was actually involved with, or had extensive knowledge of, mind control programs. In fact, they both claim to be “whistleblowers”.

Of course, this just throws more questions into the mix. Now, he claims that when he got out of the CIA, he wanted to do something good, hence, his rescue of Cathy. This, of course, begs the question: Was he just her new handler? And if so, why go public? What’s the agenda? To mislead people by providing some true information mixed with the untrue (classic disinfo technique), or was he guilty of some things that occurred to her and others like her, and this was his way of atoning for those sins?

There’s also the testimony of the Miller family who’s daughter Shaela (the family claims) fell under Mark and Cathy’s spell. There’s a video of her younger sisters claiming Mark and Cathy are lying, brainwashing their sister Shaela, and are behaving like a cult themselves. There’s also a blog, written by the father, who tells the whole story of how Shaela came to meet Mark and Cathy, how the relationship developed, and Mark’s antagonistic and suspicious behavior:

Miller Family Blog

So, who was this guy, Mark Phillips, and what’s the full story? I’ll give my personal opinion when we do our summation.

Further Research Links;

TRANCE-Formation of America

Sex, Lies, and Mind Control

Brice Taylor

Brice Taylor, who’s real name is Sue Ford, also claims to be a sex-slave victim of mind control. Her story is so similar to Cathy O’Brien’s and Candy Jones, that one can start to see an emerging pattern with these tales. Vulnerable female gets rescued by a man, then suddenly begins remembering all these horrific details about her past that she had forgotten, or compartmentalized in her mind.

Of course, she also wrote a book about all the sordid details (including naming names) called, Thanks for the Memories… The Truth Has Set Me Free! Memoirs of Bob Hope’s and Henry Kissinger’s Mind-Controlled Slave.

Here’s a review of the book by Uri Dowbenko.


Okay, so let’s play a clip from an early Disinfo piece profiling Brice Taylor:

Alright, I know what you’re gonna say. This is all a bunch of Satanic panic LARPing by vulnerable and fantasy-prone women for the fundamentalist Christian sect. I’ve even heard it described as porn for conspiracy-minded fundamentalists who see Satan lurking under every bed.

And, if you think that, I wouldn’t blame you. But I’d remind you that the whole Satanic Panic thing was term invented by the media to downplay and/or ridicule many of these claims, much like “conspiracy theory” was invented to downplay inquiry into the JFK Assassination.

I believe there’s a core truth to what these women are saying, and that it in all likelihood, that truth is being manipulated by certain men (many with intelligence or law enforcement backgrounds) for some kind of purpose. Whether that’s to control the narrative in some way, or drive the narrative in a certain direction, remains to be seen. But there’s no doubt in my mind there’s an agenda behind this, and probably a political one.

So, his leads us to our current state of affairs with all the accusations around Hollywood and elsewhere. Yes, there are pedophiles in Hollywood, some very prominent I’m sure. In fact, there’s a documentary about this problem called, An Open Secret, made by Academy Award nominated director Amy Berg, which I recommend everyone see, as it reveals actual documented evidence against certain perpetrators.

Here’s the trailer:

You can watch the full movie for FREE here. And as great and thorough as this documentary is, it probably just scratches the surface.

But, let’s face it, this witch-hunt mentality brewing on the Internet is getting out of hand. Obviously, this is a very emotionally charged topic, and there are real perpetrators and crimes being committed, so I understand the outrage.

But gossip and rumor-mongering isn’t helping.

We don’t know that Hanks and Speilberg are actually guilty of anything. One supposed victim’s claims are not enough. Anonymous accusations by so-called Renegade Anons are not enough. Isaac Kappy’s accusations are not enough.

I’m sure more accusations will be forthcoming, as this could be the damn breaking. And if any of these accusations do end up being true, then good riddance to them. I’ll be sad I can’t watch Jaws or Cast Away anymore, but I’ll get over it.

But, so far, these accusations are not enough.

I’ll remind people of Nick Bryant’s words: you need victims. Plural. You need police reports. You need social services reports. You need corroborating testimony.

I suggest following the NXIVM Cult arrests and news, as that story has all of the above and, for those who are looking for a smoking gun, may lead to the belly of the beast:

Seagram Heiress Arrested in Sex Cult Investigation

I also suggest listeners follow Crazy Days and Nights, a Hollywood gossip blog from an insider who provides a lot of “Blind Items” that turn out to be true. But beware, some of it is deliberately deceptive to throw people off and keep everyone guessing.

Yes, it’s true, that when elites are involved, the system often protects them by hiding the evidence. But I would also remind people that the truth eventually started coming out, despite all the efforts to suppress it. The truth will come out. Unfortunately, it may only be after the perpetrators are dead in some cases.

And if you think that’s not justice. Keep this in mind. Most powerful and famous people care about what? Their legacy. I think knowing their name will forever be dragged in the mud has it’s own kind of poetic justice.

So, keep all this in mind and use common sense and critical thinking before jumping on the bandwagon. And whether you like it or not, we still have innocence until proven guilty, and that applies for even the worst in our society.. in fact, it’s designed for the worst in our society so that it applies to all in our society.

Listen, I love fictional vigilante justice. I get it. It’s cathartic and it feels just and right when the system is corrupted. But vigilante justice in the real world leads to it’s own kind of fascism… pure and simple.

And that’s the concern I have over these latest developments. My fear is that in our quest for justice, we become the enemy we despise.


The Pedophocracy by Dave McGowan (documents much of what we covered)

Reddit Thread Summarizing Many of the Most Infamous Cases

Joachim Hagopian’s Pedophilia & Empire: Satan, Sodomy, and the Deep State (detailed and exhaustive)

Joachim Hagopian’s Blog American Empire Exposed

There’s lots more, but I’ll add them later…

The Child Catcher – Chitty Chitty Bang Bang


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